Perhaps, Stevie was just saying that we should give Ioan the benefit of the doubt. Having nice things, wishing you could afford (more) nice things, or not speaking out in favour of a cause all of the time don't mean that you don't care about good causes and you don't do nice things.
In the end, it is what you do in your everyday life to support a cause that will make a difference, not how much you talk about it. In the case of the environment, recycling wrapping paper and bows. It was presented in a way that made it seem so innovative and novel, saving old clothes in the Halloween box to use as costumes, taking short showers, using your car only when it is strictly necessary, not keeping the heating in wintertime and the air conditioning in summertime too high, cleaning litter, planting plants, turning off the light switch when you leave a room and recycling cans etc, will make a far greater difference for the environment than a thousand high-sounding words.
You're saying we don't know what went on behind the scenes, that things could have gone either way; if that's the case then why is it wrong to think the negative way as oppose to the 'positive' one?
There's nothing at all wrong in expressing that view, Kaitlyn, I was merely expressing the other. I didn't say you were 'wrong', I asked you to give the guy the benfit of the doubt.
Not everyone has to automatically run to the man's aid when a critic says he is a crap actor or can't present or that he 'read from a piece of paper'; and I stand by my first opinion whether you three agree with it or not. Ioan's speech wasn't touching to the critic, it's not the end of the world, just overlook it. Excuses don't need to be made for him.
Excuse me? I have always formed my own opinions about Ioan, which have varied greatly depending on the subject in hand. Why is wrong for me to express an opinion on the critic's view, but okay for you to do so?
Stevie, to be honest, I'm not even going to bother trying to respond to your comment about him being 'condemned for eternity to be a money-grabbing hedonist' because I'm not going to get anywhere. It's all going to keep being shoved back at me anyway.
Kaitlyn, I was simply pointing out that 'one swallow does not a Summer make' and one expression of possession acquisition does not mean you don't care about the environment. I'm a great believer in each person doing their bit, but for most of us, that doesn't include garnering a lot of publicity while we do it.
Well put it this way GG, Ioan is in no position to speak out against povertly like he apparently did in The Guerrilla Tapestry seeing as he is quite convinced that he isn't rich yet. How much more money does he need? It makes me angry that he thinks he can speak out against poverty when he also thinks he could earn even more money than he does currently.
Plus, there was that article last year when he bragged on about his car and his plasma screens and swimming pool (that he said wasn't big enough) that was followed by people telling me that I have stuff he doesnt when I said that I'm sick of Hollywood people going on about their expensive things. He's clearly doing his bit for world poverty, isn't he. :roll:
First of all let me say that I am not attacking you.
Technically, we all could earn more money (or less for that matter). If someone was in a position whereby they could earn one million dollars and not do jack would they take it? I know I would! The majority of people would whether they admit it or not so even if Ioan was never working and laying around the house eating Ben and Jerry's in some fuzzy slippers and had an option to rake in the dough and he took it, I would not begrudge him that because I would do it too. I wager most people would. Even so, Ioan is not as bad as my example. He does work for his money and he is not a millionaire unlike a lot of celebrities who had three houses in three different countries and are multimillionaires. Even if he was, it's his business. Let's be real, most people would take the mansions and in ground pools over a lifetime of drudgery at a job that they hated if they could.
You said that he was going on and on about his expensive things. He goes on and on about a lot of weird stuff like wire coat hangers. Talking about that pool is just something else for him to yap on and on about since he doesn't have to live in cold flats and eat leftover soup anymore (that was in articles as well as the bragging about the car. He is not Paris Hilton...he has not always been "rich" financially).
He strikes me as one of those people who just don't get it. They are kind of dense and don't pick up on cues and they just don't know what to say out of their mouths sometimes and end up shooting their own selves in the foot. You can't tell people things sometimes and I learned this the hard way. If I got a Jag, I would feel like yapping about it too. But if I were in the public eye, I would not blab that to a reporter ("omg, I am so stoked I have a jag...teehehehehee") because they have a funny way of using things against people and twisting words. It seems that Ioan doesn't quite get that everyone does not have your best interests at heart, everyone is not nice and everyone is not your buddy.
I read about his upbringing and it seems that his parents are really sweet people and perhaps Ioan grew up thinking everyone was like the family back in Wales and that's not the way things work. It seems as though he is a bit sheltered when it comes to "the world out there". He always seems "younger" than what he really is mentally and very naive. I am surprised that he is still in one piece with those stunts he has pulled.
Also, even if he did give more and more and more time to these organizations, what then? All people are going to do is criticize and say something like "actors should stick to acting" and "what does he know" or something asinine like that and not take him seriously. People laughed at Sheryl Crow when she talked about using one sheet of toliet paper and people sneer when Madonna and Angelina Jolie adopt foreign babies when American babies are up for adoption as well. People are going to do what they are going to do regardless of what celebrities say. I know some racists who've stopped listening to U2 music when Bono began trying to help Africa. No matter what Sheryl Crow says people still buy bottled water, SUVs and leave the water running while brushing their teeth. That is the way of the world be it right or wrong. All each of us can do is what we think is right whether its just recycling or something as big as starting a whole new organization.
On a slightly off topic note, I find that a lot of people who hate on celebrities (not saying that you are one those people, I am talking generally since we're already on the subject of entertainers and the media) are disappointed in their own lives and are just jealous. Why else do people delight in Britney Spears' troubles when they've done things far worse than going out without underwear when they were her age? A lot of things people say about actors, musicians and other types of entertainers is just sour grapes. If the people talking all of that trash could star in a hit TV show and have beautiful women, fast cars and loads of cash, they'd do it too and they need to stop pretending that they wouldn't.